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Verrrry Interesting

Today I made a comment at Counter Currents Publishing in reply to a post titled “White Extinction”(1).  The basic argument of the post was that Whites are facing extinction and are in need of a homeland.  Here was my comment:

I believe we need White spaces and institutions to guarantee survival.  When it comes to White spaces, the options are either White areas within multi-racial countries or outright White countries.  I agree that an outright White country would be more efficient in maintaining survival, my concerns are with the cost of achieving these all White countries.

What is the cost of partitioning lets say 2/3 of America for Whites only?  How many people are you willing to see die (Whites and non-Whites) to achieve it?

White Nationalists overwhelmingly believe that the Jews rule the Western world. I once thought this way as well, but now realize the situation is (unfortunately) more complicated. It’s more likely that the Western world is ruled by several factions, one of which is world Jewry, but the others being masonic “WASP” Anglo-American elites (with the head being British aristocracy) , and the other being Continental European (with the head being German). In general the Jews and masonic WASPs tend to be aligned. The Continental European side tends to have stronger connections with the Catholic Church and in the last 20 years with Russia.

The last time this group did battle was WWII and since 1945 we’ve had a period of peace. But since the early 2000’s this period of peace has started to unwind.

So what happens when the Anglo-American masonic WASP side starts to see itself loosing its position and decides that its only hope to retain power is to offer North American Whites a “deal.”  Lets say they give Whites full power over the military and the right to force non-Whites off 67% of the land mass of the US.  Mormonism would be the State religion and you’d have to pledge you fealty to the British Royal family. After this new White State is established, the population would have to go to war against the Continental Europeans to “smash the Huns and mongol Russians.”    Over time you’d have to take a chip in your hand, but this would just be to “keep the children safe.”

How many of you would take this deal to get a White State in North America?  What aspects would you reject (Mormonism?, the chip?, war with Europe and Russia?) .

One more question:  Lets say Americans were given total freedom of association (meaning the right to communities, institutions, businesses with who they wanted) and there was end to State financed anti-Whiteness (including a moratorium on non-White immigration) . How many here would still fight for an all White State?

My take on it is this, as much as I’d like an all White State in North America, the cost of getting it would probably be too great. So instead, I’d see total freedom of association and the institutions (media, educational, spiritual) to make White people better off. Then over time as White communities join other White communities, slowly Whites may wish to form something new.  This will be a slower process.  A more organic process to White Statehood.  This way would eliminate the death and suffering involved in cutting out a new White state in North America. It would also greatly reduce the chances for power elites to use us for their bigger plans.

When I checked back at Counter Currents to see if it generated any discussion, I found that at least half of it was erased. Here’s what made it though CC moderation:

I believe we need White spaces and institutions to guarantee survival. When it comes to White spaces, the options are either White areas within multi-racial countries or outright White countries. I agree that an outright White country would be more efficient in maintaining survival, my concerns are with the cost of achieving these all White countries.

What is the cost of partitioning lets say 2/3 of America for Whites only? How many people are you willing to see die (Whites and non-Whites) to achieve it?

One more question: Lets say Americans were given total freedom of association (meaning the right to communities, institutions, businesses with who they wanted) and there was end to State financed anti-Whiteness (including a moratorium on non-White immigration) . How many here would still fight for an all White State?

My take on it is this, as much as I’d like an all White State in North America, the cost of getting it would probably be too great. So instead, I’d see total freedom of association and the institutions (media, educational, spiritual) to make White people better off. Then over time as White communities join other White communities, slowly Whites may wish to form something new. This will be a slower process. A more organic process to White Statehood. This way would eliminate the death and suffering involved in cutting out a new White state in North America. It would also greatly reduce the chances for power elites to use us for their bigger plans.

Here’s the parts that were removed:

White Nationalists overwhelmingly believe that the Jews rule the Western world. I once thought this way as well, but now realize the situation is (unfortunately) more complicated. It’s more likely that the Western world is ruled by several factions, one of which is world Jewry, but the others being masonic “WASP” Anglo-American elites (with the head being British aristocracy) , and the other being Continental European (with the head being German). In general the Jews and masonic WASPs tend to be aligned. The Continental European side tends to have stronger connections with the Catholic Church and in the last 20 years with Russia.   

The last time this group did battle was WWII and since 1945 we’ve had a period of peace. But since the early 2000’s this period of peace has started to unwind. 

So what happens when the Anglo-American masonic WASP side starts to see itself loosing its position and decides that its only hope to retain power is to offer North American Whites a “deal.”  Lets say they give Whites full power over the military and the right to force non-Whites off 67% of the land mass of the US.  Mormonism would be the State religion and you’d have to pledge you fealty to the British Royal family. After this new White State is established, the population would have to go to war against the Continental Europeans to “smash the Huns and mongol Russians.”    Over time you’d have to take a chip in your hand, but this would just be to “keep the children safe.” 

How many of you would take this deal to get a White State in North America?  What aspects would you reject (Mormonism?, the chip?, war with Europe and Russia?) . 

As you the reader can see, there’s nothing in my comments that are vulgar, or violent, or combative. I was perplexed over why this part would be edited?  But then I remembered another comment I posted at CC that was erased outright (never made it through moderation)(2). Here’s what I wrote in that post:

“Race is obviously critical in the WN/Pro-White worldview and organizing principle. We need to talk more about what the concept of “Whiteness” really means. But I still wonder what it is that lies beyond that?  Here are some situations to consider.

Let’s say tomorrow the Anglo-American elites, which belong to an organization like this one (1), come and call a big meeting with the White Nationalist community and offer this. They offer to give White Nationalists a high level authority over 67% of the geographic space of America. They offer to give Whites the power over media, politics, popular culture, with even more power than people suppose Jews to have today. They offer to change the living locations for all non-Whites (from this 67% of the country) except in a few major cities throughout “middle America” where international commerce is conducted.  We’ll say 67 present of the country is under “White Law.”

BUT

Everybody has to take a chip in their bodies to be tracked by organizations owned and ran by the Anglo-American elites (2). I’ll call this #1  “White Nationalist + chip situation.”

Here’s another scenario. An America that has FREEdom OF ASSoCIAtiON along with an end to publicly paid anti-Whiteness.  A more localized political life while setting up economic flows between other traditionalist parties across the world.  Teutons, Russian traditionalists, British nationalists but also Hindus, Japanese, South America indigenous Indians, North American Indians, Chinese Nationalists, Israelis and other Jews who will respect our boundaries. I call this #2 “Traditionalist-Freedom of association” situation.

What situation would you prefer #1 or #2?

I’d take #2.

I wouldn’t be able to accept (for example) the force relocation of the America Indians. Or the forced return of “African Americans” (blacks who are descended from black slaves) to Africa.  I have something that I place above ultimate White racial interests. I couldn’t maliciously fuck over innocent people for my political worldview or metaphysical outlook. Something in my being does not allow me to put racial interests at the very top.

BUT HERE’S A THIRD SCENARIO!!! #3!!!.  Let’s say some Ubermensch-like, White extraterrestrials land one day and say:

“OK you pasted the test. We made you and put you in this situation with non-Whites to see if you’d let yourselves get wiped out. Since you made it this long; you past the test. Now you Whites must kill off every single non-White and every single Jew in the world. Then we’ll build an intergalactic civilization with us teaching you the mysteries of the Universe while you live as colonists for us laying down our law across the universe.”   I call this #3 the “Ubermensch test for US” situation.

Who would take # 3?

To the readers, at least just post the number you’d prefer, if you don’t feel like discussing it. Or feel free to discuss your choice.

So after reading over this comment, I started comparing the two. I looked for aspects that were in the first comment removed that matched the parts that were edited from the latest. From comparing the two it seems that my offenses were in mentioning the Anglo-American-masonic “WASP” elites (3) and from my speculations of possible scenarios in which the Anglo-American-Masonic “WASP” elites could create an all-White homeland in North America if they were faced with the threat of loss of power or loss of existence. I believe the following two words sum up this situation perfectly (watch video below):

(1) http://www.counter-currents.com/2014/02/white-extinction/#more-45475

(2) https://systemssymbols.wordpress.com/2013/11/28/happy-thanksgiving-pilgrims/

(3) https://wikispooks.com/ISGP/organisations/Pilgrims_Society02.htm

*Note: Despite this “verrry interesting” observance, I believe Counter Currents is the best White Nationalist website (outside of the BUGS-White Rabbit sphere) in the world today. I recommend donating to their website.

https://secure.counter-currents.com/donate/

 

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